Game over, Russia!
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prof_eug"What we also know is that the Malaysia Airlines jet was brought down by a missile that was fired from the ground. It was fired from the ground in an area that was controlled by separatists, and in an area where the Ukrainians themselves were not actually operating anti-aircraft weapons at that time," White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters. "So that is why we have concluded
that Vladimir Putin and the Russians are culpable to this tragedy,"
he said (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/25/us-ukraine-crisis-usa-idUSKBN0FU2DO20140725)/
Перевод:
"Мы так же знаем, что самолет Малайзийских авиалиний был сбит с земли ракетой, которая была запущена в районе, который контролируется сепаратистами, и в районе, в котором украинское ПВО в это время не работало", - сказал пресс-секретарь Белого Дома Джош Эрнест.
"Вот почему мы пришли к выводу,
что Владимир Путин и русские виновны в этой трагедии", отметил он.
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Game over, Russia!
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Date: 2014-07-26 06:40 pm (UTC)А то, что сбили ракетой из российского "Бука", с территории, контролируемой террористами, уже доказано.
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Date: 2014-07-26 06:51 pm (UTC)До такой степени с катушек даже он ещё не съехал.
Парашют - это специальным образом просчитанный пакет секторальных санкций, работа над которым подходит к завершению, а принятие первой части должно состояться на следующей неделе.
В Европе хорошо понимают, что такие санкции ударят и по ней, поэтому принимать их будут очень плавно, максимально обезопасив себя и давая время своему бизнесу подготовиться к последствиям.
К слову, секторальные санкции Европа вводить вообще не собиралась, но сбитый "Боинг" и особенно поведение российской стороны после этого, полностью поменял расклад и настроения.
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Date: 2014-07-27 05:47 pm (UTC)На Донбассе эти горе-стратеги уже терпят жестокое военное поражение. Сводки последних дней весьма увлекательны...
Game over, Russia!
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Date: 2014-07-26 01:17 pm (UTC)- мы постараемся сделать вид что реагируем адекватно ситуации;
- а ты, путин, постарайся облегчить нам эту задачу.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/25/press-briefing-press-secretary-josh-earnest-072514
(сорри, почему-то lj-cut не работает)
Q Has Russia moved multiple launch missile systems across the border into Ukraine?
MR. EARNEST: Well, Bill, I’m not able to give you the latest intelligence assessment. We have seen a pretty strong track record, and there’s ample evidence to indicate that there has been, unfortunately, a steady flow of heavy weapons across the border from Russia into Ukraine and into the hands of these Russian-backed separatists. We continue to be very concerned about that. We do know that it was an SA-11 system that was in the hands of separatists that brought down the Malaysian airliner last week. We know that Russia had been involved in training separatists to use that system. And that is why the Russians are responsible for that and why the international community is now focused on isolating the Putin regime and getting them to change their behavior in Ukraine.
Q There were apparently one or more systems moved close to the border earlier. It’s not somewhere around after 10:00 p.m., and they thought they might move them over today. And I wonder whether you knew that.
MR. EARNEST: I’m not in a position to offer a specific detailed intelligence assessment about today’s movements of heavy weapons.
Q Is there firing across the border in either direction?
MR. EARNEST: We have seen in the last couple of days, according to some social media reports but also to some intelligence assessments that have been released by the intelligence community, reports that there has been firing of Russian heavy weapons from the Russian side of the border at Ukrainian military personnel. We have detected that firing, and that does represent an escalation in this conflict. I know that the Pentagon and the State Department both talked about this a little bit yesterday, but it only underscores the concerns that the United States and the international community has about Russian behavior and the need for the Putin regime to change their strategy.
Q So what are you going to do about it?
MR. EARNEST: Well, we’re going to continue to work with the international community to further isolate Putin and Russia, and to discuss imposing additional economic costs on Russia for their activities in Ukraine.
Q I’m not meaning to be snarky, but that’s what you’ve been saying all along, and nothing much seems to have changed.
MR. EARNEST: Well, as I mentioned to Roberta, there’s ample evidence to indicate that the economic costs that have been imposed on Russia have been felt by Russia’s economy. There are a number of steps that have been taken by the Central Bank to try to shore up their currency. We’ve seen outflows of capital, which is an indication that international investors are wary of investing in Russia right now. That’s going to have an impact on their economy. So there is evidence to indicate that the sanctions regime has had an impact on Russia, but what you point out is that it hasn’t yet changed President Putin’s calculus for his intervention in Ukraine. That is why the international community is actively engaged in conversations about whether or not -- and how -- to impose additional economic costs and further isolate him.
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Date: 2014-07-26 01:47 pm (UTC)Очень сильное утверждение!
Правительство долго посылало тонкие дипломатические предупреждения Путину. И наконец-то ясно высказало мнение Америки.
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Date: 2014-07-26 06:13 pm (UTC)и это тоже хорошо
Date: 2014-07-27 10:59 am (UTC)Re: и это тоже хорошо
Date: 2014-07-27 03:37 pm (UTC)логика???
Date: 2014-07-27 03:11 pm (UTC)The Malaysia Airlines jet was brought down by a missile that was fired from the ground.
It was fired from the ground in an area that was controlled by separatists, and in an area where the Ukrainians themselves were not actually operating anti-aircraft weapons at that time.
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Separatists shot down the Malaysia Airlines jet.
Честно, такой вывод имеет хотя бы какой-то смысл.
Замечу, у меня нет юридеческого образования, логику никогда и нигде не изучал... но такое стыдно читать.
У Клары вчера украли кораллы.
Карл - единственный, кто был вчера в гостях у Клары.
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Папо Карло во всем виноват. Или папа Карла? :-D
Re: логика???
Date: 2014-07-27 03:30 pm (UTC)"We have seen a pretty strong track record, and there’s ample evidence to indicate that there has been, unfortunately, a steady flow of heavy weapons across the border from Russia into Ukraine and into the hands of these Russian-backed separatists. We continue to be very concerned about that. We do know that it was an SA-11 system that was in the hands of separatists that brought down the Malaysian airliner last week. We know that Russia had been involved in training separatists to use that system. And that is why the Russians are responsible for that and why the international community is now focused on isolating the Putin regime and getting".
Так что, как captain_sync написал выше: "Причины падения расследовать нет необходимости, они очевидны. Хотя, Россия очень пыталась замутить суть дела, но слишком уж грубо вляпались на сей раз. Единственное, что на сегодняшний день подлежит расследованию - это степень участия России в этой истории. То есть детали - стреляли ли кадровые российские военные, или "ополченцы" под их чутким наблюдением, с какой стороны границы подсвечивали цель и пытались ли вообще её опознать.
А то, что сбили ракетой из российского "Бука", с территории, контролируемой террористами, уже доказано."
Re: логика???
Date: 2014-07-27 04:50 pm (UTC)Re: логика???
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